Paterson Road oil spill ‘could have been worse

Source link : ST -> Paterson Road oil spill ‘could have been worse’, say experts
By Danson Cheong And Adrian Lim

The oil spill that caused Paterson Road to be closed for 13 hours, and which resulted in widespread congestion for much of Thursday, could have ended a lot worse.

Experts The Straits Times spoke to said it was potentially a very dangerous situation, and it was fortunate that no lives were lost in the incident.

Adjunct Associate Professor Gopinath Menon, from Nanyang Technological University’s School of Civil and Environmental Engineering, said: “The spilt oil could have been corrosive or flammable. People could have been hurt or burnt.”

It was an inconvenience for motorists but no lives were lost, he added.

The spilt oil is believed to have come from a truck, and the driver is now assisting with investigations.

The incident was first reported to the police at around 1.30am on Thursday, after which the Singapore Civil Defence Force and National Environment Agency took turns over six hours to clean the road with water jets, detergent and sawdust.

All five lanes on Paterson Road, heading towards River Valley, were closed to traffic from about 3.50am, which resulted in a massive tailback on roads feeding into the area.

Experts said identifying the type of oil and washing it away are the first things to do when dealing with such situations.

“The type of oil has to be determined so that the right solvent can be used,” said Mr Abdul Gaffor, head of training at safety training firm KAV International.

Some oils could result in irreversible damage.

As tarmac road surfaces are made from oil-based bitumen, spills of lighter oil products will quickly degrade them, said Mr Darren Waterman, regional director for the Asia-Pacific at Oil Spill Response.

“Spilt petrol can penetrate the tarmac surface, making it more malleable, and the aggregate in the tarmac could become loose. The tarmac would then be less capable of supporting loads or movements of vehicles… In many instances, the road surfaces have to be removed and replaced,” he added.

This was what the Land Transport Authority did yesterday at about 10am, after clean-up efforts were exhausted.

Replacing the road surface was unavoidable if the oil had seeped beneath the road surface, said experts.

“When it rains, the oil will float up again and make the road slippery and dangerous,” said Mr Abdul. “It was an extreme measure but it can’t be helped,” he added.

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Overheard from TSS :

Glad to be in high-efficiency Singapore.

“this clearly tell me that all $ i paid as tax are working wisely”

“It’s definitely not easy to repave the road in one day”

image source  from TSS

Chee Soon Juan claimed to be speaking for fellow Singaporeans but who gave him the mandate to do so?

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Overheard :

“I don’t normally post political stuffs on my page (I am not into it and don’t fancy it), but this is one thing I feel the need to speak up as a citizen of this country…. not really about politics but behaviour.

Dr Chee Soon Juan had been writing to foreign medias and giving speeches in overseas about the political scenes in Singapore all these whiles since he entered politics. He had been telling foreigners how the Singapore government failed to take care of it’s people properly, how Singaporeans had suffered under the Government run by the ruling party PAP, and how the Government try to silence opposition political parties and people who try to speak up for fellow Singaporeans against the Government. He said that there is no freedom of speech in Singapore and mainstream medias are controlled by the Government and his letters, views and speeches will never get published here.

I am not going to debate with Dr Chee about those bad Government policies he mentioned as I am not in the position but just want to air my views on his action.

Firstly, are Singaporeans really treated that badly or exploit by the Government here, that perhaps the majority of us do not have a roof over our heads, we are all roaming and sleeping on the streets? Majority of Singaporeans do not have a job and can’t even afford our basic meals? People who voiced out for fellow Singaporeans against the Government are all silenced by sending them to jail or perhaps kill them?

I seriously think that we did not fare that badly as a country with majority of the people having a roof over their heads, a job and basic necessities.

Secondly, he claimed to be speaking for fellow Singaporeans but who gave him the mandate to do so?
With the low votes he received during those three General Elections that he contested, it surely did not look like majority of Singaporeans were supporting him, his action and views. He went on a hunger strike to protest against the dismissal, after he lost his job in the NUS due to his serious misconduct and for misappropriating research fund, but he was drinking glucose drink, hunger strike, really? He was introduced into politics and mentored by Mr Chiam See Tong but he later forced Mr Chiam out of the political party the senior founded and fought for, he also misbehaved and challenged former Prime Minister Mr Goh Chok Tong in public with verbal abuse when both of them met at a walkabout during an election tour.

With all these, Dr Chee’s integrity is questionable, I surely would not approve of somebody like him to speak up for me.

Lastly, if he truly wants to fight for the rights of fellow Singaporeans, for the good of the people in this country, he should refrain from speaking to foreign medias in overseas. What does he really want to achieve? For his personal gains and glory or he is seriously naive to think that foreign Governments will intervene with our local Government policies here? Even if they do, is it for the good or bad of the people in this country?

Imagine if foreign Governments intervene by cutting all ties with us, stop doing business and investing in this country, MNC pull out of Singapore, Singaporeans will start losing their jobs, companies here and even the Government will start losing foreign investments and the people will seriously be starving and sleeping on the streets because don’t forget that we have literately nothing, everything we need (even basic necessities like rice, poultry, vegetables, seafood..etc) we need to import them.

I always feel that this is our own country, we run it the way we deem fit, we should never allow foreigners to dictate how our country should be run, no matter what the issues are, big or small. So if he really wants to make a change for the better for fellow Singaporeans, he should speak to our Government, talk to people who can really make the changes, go to Speaker Corner to speak to Singaporeans and garner supports, contest the General Election again and make those changes himself and not try to use foreign political forces to achieve this.

He once said “We are Singaporeans, we have our rights, our rights to vote, so do not sell your votes, sell your votes is selling your country” …. Seriously, whether his view points are right or wrong, he is selling the country by going round telling the whole world that Singapore is bad, we have a bad Government, people in this country has no rights, no freedom of speech, trying to get foreign political forces to intervene on how our country should be run.

I am not going to allow someone who is always ready to sell the country to speak up for me or run this country….. Never!!! “

Chee Soon Juan has sacrificed Singapore’s national interest for his political agenda

 

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Overheard :

I understand there is some anger about the manner Minister Chan Chun Sing responded to HuffingtonPost about publishing Chee Soon Juan’s articles. Please consider that 1 of the 2 articles called for major trading partners to not sign Free Trade Agreements with Singapore until certain conditions are met. If he has his way, jobs will be lost in Singapore. Families will be thrown into hardship. Livelihoods will be affected.

As a Singaporean, I am deeply offended by what he did, asking foreign nations to do things against Singapore’s interest to further his agenda.

Regardless of whether we agree with the way Chan Chun Sing responded, we must not get distracted from the real issue at hand.

We must stand resolutely and in solidarity against what Chee Soon Juan is doing here.

Comment

  • I fully agree. Well said. As a small nation dependent on trade with the world, we should support free trade. CSJ has sacrificed Singapore’s national interest for his political agenda. That’s why he’s unfit to be a political leader (imho).

 

Defence Spending in Singapore is a waste of money ?


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overheard from The Reservist

The writer of this article felt that Singapore is spending too much on defence and the money could be better used to fund social needs. He doubted Singapore would stand a chance against an invasion from Malaysia or Indonesia. His “solution” was to allow US, UK and Australia troops to be based in Singapore. This, he feels, will deter aggressors.

Let’s see :

(1) The last time we were occupied by another country was when we depended others to defend us.


(2) The fact that we remained sovereign since independence shows that we don’t need another country’s military in Singapore to act as a deterrent. WE are the deterrence.

(3) Come on, give us some credit. We may not be professional soldiers but we’re definitely good enough to defend Singapore. We don’t go back for our ICTs for fun. Ok, we do to a certain extent but we also train hard and are ready to defend Singapore.

That being said, we do agree that more can be done to help Singaporeans, especially the less fortunate. But it shouldn’t be at the expense of defence.

Without a strong defence, we may not even have a place to call home.
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Comments : 
  • The guy who wrote the article probably is a foreigner or someone who wants to poison the minds of Singaporeans.. Only the brainless will agree with the writer
  • The guy who wrote the article is, in my view, a traitor to his country, people and his own faith.
  • Boastful? We are not boastful. Its an act of confidence. Once our enemies sees we lack any bit of confidence of defending this land of ours. That will surely be our downfall. Just like a crack in a dam. Though small but will lead to a disaster. Never doubt the will of our people. See how far have we come now. We may not b in numbers. But we’ll sure give hell before we give up our home!!!!
  • If the author is Singaporean, then what he wrote is tantamount to treason. And the law will hang the treasonous.
    In other news, we really need to kick out internal parasites.

Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong on his achievements and regrets

Source link  :CNA -> PM Lee on his achievements and regrets, after a decade at the helm

SINGAPORE: As the nation gears up to celebrate its 50th anniversary this year, Singapore should take the occasion to take stock and focus on its vision for the years ahead, Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong said in an interview with Singapore journalists earlier this week.

In his first such interview since reaching the milestone of 10 years at the helm, Mr Lee touched on a broad range issues, such as the evolving political landscape, the challenges facing Singapore and Singaporeans, and his vision for the country.


image from PM Lee’ fb

ON WHAT HE IS PARTICULARLY SATISFIED WITH

“I would say putting a lot of emphasis on education. Right from the beginning, my first National Day Rally, I remember one of my themes was on the young. And we were talking about the schools – ‘teach less, learn more’ – and getting people to get the maximum out of their education.

“We’ve followed through on that in many ways, investing in the schools, Edusave, resources for the principals, making sure every school is a good school, developing tertiary education, building up the ITEs. I’ve now opened all three of them – the East, the West and most recently, and the best of all, I think is the Central campus.

“We’ve expanded our polytechnics and upgraded our polys and they are now a very attractive option for many young people.

“We’ve expanded university education. SUTD was one manifestation. It means a lot more young people are getting into our universities now and we are expanding the numbers further and opening up new paths with UniSIM, with SIT (Singapore Institute of Technology), and we are talking about beyond formal education, skills future, lifelong learning.

“I think it is not a single decision, but it is a continuing, consistent emphasis over a long period of time and successive capable, strong Education Ministers supported by competent and passionate professionals. I think that is very important to our future.”

ON HIS GREATEST REGRET

“In retrospect, it’s easy to say that we should have been building up our infrastructure a lot faster; that we should have got our trains running; that we should have got our HDB flats built more.

“At that time, we thought we were doing the right thing, pacing it, measuring it out, building it when we needed it and not spending resources until we needed to spend them. It turned out that things didn’t pan out the way we expected and I think in the future, we have to plan less conservatively, and try to be less precise in our prognostications.

“You want to predict what’s going to happen.”

ON THE POPULATION WHITE PAPER

“I think there was a strong emotional reaction when we put out the White Paper. In retrospect, if we have had a bit more time to prepare the ground, to explain it, to soft sell and prepare people to understand what it is that is the issue and what we are trying to do, we should have done better. But that’s water under the bridge.

“I can understand the reactions of people because they are not reacting on the basis of reading a paper and then trying to take a dispassionate, almost academic approach, to what should be done. They are reacting on the basis of their direct context – colleagues at work, people on MRT trains, public places where foreign workers may gather – and they have a reaction, to say things have changed.

“I am not surprised there is some such anxiety among Singaporeans. I think we have worked hard at this. We have calibrated the policies, we have slowed down the inflows, we have tightened up on foreign workers. In fact, it is causing employers a lot of pain.

“We will continue to adjust to get the balance as right as we can, but I don’t think we are able to relax because we have to continue in a sustainable way. But neither are we able to say: ‘We go to zero and let’s do away with all these people. We don’t need them to build our trains, we don’t need them to make houses. We don’t need them to serve us noodles in the middle of the night when we go down to the hawker centre.’ I think that is not practical.

“People ask me: ‘Next year, what is the growth?’ Or ‘Ten years from now, what will Singapore be?’ The answer is what I can guess, but actually a lot depends on what we do, a lot depends on how the world goes. We have to be prepared for a wide range of outcomes and insure ourselves.”

ON HIS USE OF SOCIAL MEDIA

“I think it makes me a lot more conscious in pitching what I want to say, to ask myself: How will I distil this down in a form which somebody can digest on Facebook or Instagram? On Twitter it is very hard. It’s 140 characters, I can just put a bit, but please click on this bit.ly to read more.

“But on Facebook, you can say a bit more, on Instagram, if you choose the right picture, the picture can tell a lot of stories. So it makes me a lot more conscious of the way I boil down my messages down into small chunks, and also the timing and the sense of the messages. You cannot always be putting out long, learned dissertations on some cosmic issue or other.

“There are times when you have to be light-hearted. There are times when you see a beautiful sunset, you share it with people and hope that they enjoy it with you. When you catch an owl somewhere in the Istana, maybe somebody is interested to see the owl. It’s something unusual and personal. And I think that is helpful.

“But it’s necessary, through Facebook, Instagram or whatever the next new thing is coming – I’ve not gone into Snapchat yet – to have not just light banter, but really some serious response, serious content as well.”


image from PM Lee’ fb

ON FUTURE ELECTIONS

“I think it must change. I’m not sure which way it will change. We are in a very unusual situation where there is a clear consensus for the ruling party, for the People’s Action Party.

“There’s desire for alternative views, but basically Singaporeans want the PAP to govern Singapore. And if you ask the opposition party, whether it’s the Workers’ Party or SDP (Singapore Democratic Party), nobody says: ‘Vote for me, I will form the Government, I will be the Prime Minister, I will run this place better’. Nobody.

“So in that situation, for the Government to continue to maintain support and to be able to carry the consensus of the population over the long term – I think it’s very important. Will it remain the present situation exactly today? I don’t think so. How will it change? I cannot say.

“It depends on voters. It depends on how the new MPs and ministers we bring in bond with the people. It depends on what situations we run into. If we run into a turbulent situation, I think people will be very worried about the dangers and there will be a flight to safety. If you are in a peaceful and prosperous environment, people will say: ‘This is the way the world is, why do you need the Government? We can prosper without the Government.’

“So there is no safety net, no certainty that what we have now is going to continue. And each election is a very serious contest for who is going to form the next Government.”

ON THE NEXT GENERAL ELECTION

“I think there’ll be quite a few (new candidates). You have already seen some of them, so you can do an estimation.

“(The number of Group Representation Constituencies) will be decided by the Electoral Boundaries Review Committee. But at the last General Election, the average number of MPs assigned to each GRC went down, and there were a few more SMCs (Single Member Constituencies). I am satisfied with that.

“In principle, every MP should be able to contest on his own to keep his constituency. I think every MP should be prepared for this because they won’t be able to know whether the Electoral Boundaries Review Committee will carve out an SMC from their GRC. The objective of having GRCs is to ensure we will have minority representation in Parliament. I think this is still necessary, so we definitely will not change the GRC system.

“There is no institution that can guarantee it will never be overturned. Even if you don’t hold elections, there may still be revolutions. So in Singapore, if everyone just assumes the Government will not be unseated and votes as he wishes, I think that is a very dangerous assumption.”

ON HIS SUCCESSOR

“It’s very possible (my successor) is already in the current Cabinet line-up, but it’s not an absolute because I want to bring in a group of new candidates with strong leadership potential in the next election. I believe we should be able to find my successor from the previous two elections or the next one.

“Times have changed, and his background would also be different. He would need some time to establish his authority, to let Singaporeans know his character, his working style and his leadership abilities. In other countries, it’s quite rare to find a Prime Minister that has had many years of experience before leading a country.

“But he may not be a stranger.”

ON THE NARRATIVE FOR SINGAPORE

“I think that for the next phase, the narrative cannot be a single word, nation-building. It has to be that we live in Singapore, we have a home, this is a place which is quite special, if you travel, you would know it’s very special. Not just if you travel to developing countries and backward areas.

“If you travel to developed countries, you would know that this is a place where you don’t find the same kind of multiracial mix, you don’t find the same kind of opportunities as you would in Singapore and many places.

“I think we can make this something really outstanding for ourselves and our children. And for Singapore, as well as for the individual, we have to work at it … it’s not easy, but we have the resources, and if we can work at it, it will be better.

“Better to do what? Better for you to fulfil what you want to do in life. We accommodate one another, we are not just so many individual human beings but a society. In Singapore we get on together, and I think we can have a good future, a bright future.”

Chee Soon Juan is NOT for Singapore and Singaporeans.

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Overheard from Calvin Cheng :

Min Chan Chun Sing has written an excellent letter to Huffington Post informing the people behind this ultra-liberal, left-wing American publication that Chee Soon Juan is not a serious political figure in Singapore. No doubt, this sanctimonious online newspaper, founded by the quintessential champagne-socialist Arianna Huffington, will ignore it in the name of ‘freedom of speech’.

What is more interesting is the numerous extremists – hardcore opposition supporters – who have piled in to excoriate Min. Chan and defend Chee Soon Juan.

The thing is that Singapore would benefit from a GOOD opposition – any country would. Senior PAP members themselves have said as much. There are far better opposition figures that have done much for Singapore, not least of all Chiam See Tong whom Min Chan has called ‘an honourable man’.

And by far the man who has achieved the most for the opposition cause has been Low Thia Kiang, who took down a GRC packed with PAP heavyweights, and held Hougang without histrionics, without slandering people, without pandering to Western provocateurs, without the kind of ineffective and absurd political drama of Chee Soon Juan. These are the opposition figures that the world should know about.

People who support the Opposition without care about WHO the politician is and what he stands for are a blight on our hopes of having an enlightened electorate, and a constructive democracy. They are a grave danger to Singapore, and a knife in the heart of opposition activists who have worked hard through the years to build up a credible, constructive, and moderate Opposition.

Both ruling party supporters and moderate, reasonable opposition members must unite in the face of the extreme and destructive ideology of opposing for the sake of opposing. Otherwise Singapore will be ruined.

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Overheard : 

1. Chee Soon Juan& his wife does not work for many years, he raised 3 beautiful children, drive a car, fully paid up a 3rm flat in a mature estate, travelled oversea for holiday and to bad mouth Singapore regularly.

2. CSJ was fired from NUS for misappropriating researched fund.

3. Staged a hunger strike, but eat a large breakfast everyday then fed himself glucose water throughout the day.

4. Usurped SDP from Chiam See Tong the founder.

5. Mr Chiam See Tong almost lost his Potong Pasir Parliamentary seat in 1993, after Chee Soon Juan attempted to expel him from the SDP. Mr Chiam has to go to court to prevent Chee from doing so on procedural grounds. After which Chee replace Mr Chiam as parliamentary opposition leader with Ling “Don’t Talk Cock” How Dong.

6. Protest crazy like the looney fringe Han Hui Hui. Everything also protest, illegally without permit.

7. Heckle crazy like the looney fringe Roy and Hui Hui.

8. Talk about freedom of speech, SDP page banned everyone who disagree with it.

9. Cannot get elected does not mean there is no democracy like Chee insisted. It only prove the people has rejected Chee’s stupid shit.

10. Desperate enough to trade his Town Council (if he wins) to another party just to avoid 3 corner fight. Then chicken out when rejected.

Chan Chun Sing : Dr Chee Soon Juan betrayed his own mentor, Mr Chiam See Tong.

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Response to Huffington Post articles “Without Freedom There is No Free Trade” and and “Free the Singapore Media and Let the People Go” by Chan Chun Sing

Your website has given Dr Chee Soon Juan considerable but undeserved attention and space. You perhaps believe that he is a weighty political figure in Singapore. He is nothing of the kind.

Dr Chee has stood for elections thrice – and lost badly all three times, once receiving just 20% of the vote.

The party he now leads, the Singapore Democratic Party, was once the leading opposition party in the country. But that was when it was led by Mr Chiam See Tong, a man everyone in Singapore, political friend and foe alike, regards as an honourable man.

Indeed, it was Mr Chiam who brought Dr Chee into the SDP in 1992. He mentored the younger man and promoted him. Dr Chee then proceeded to betray Mr Chiam, isolate him and force him out of the SDP, a party that he had founded in 1980 and had nurtured over 14 years. Since then the SDP hasn’t won a single seat in Parliament, though Mr Chiam himself went on to win elections repeatedly.

In 1993, Dr Chee was dismissed from the National University of Singapore for misappropriating research funds and for other serious misconduct, including surreptitiously recording conversations with university staff.

He has been sued for defamation not only by ruling party politicians, a fact that he likes to trumpet in the foreign media, but also by the doyen of the opposition in Singapore, Mr Chiam, a fact that he doesn’t mention because it is embarrassing.

And in 1996, Dr Chee and three of his associates were convicted of perjury by Parliament tor submitting false statements to a Special Parliamentary Committee. This is the equivalent of Congress convicting someone of perjury, a most serious offence.

It is because of these and other failings that Dr Chee is a political failure — not because he was persecuted, as he likes to pretend. His party is now one of the weakest political parties in Singapore principally because voters do not regard its leader as an honourable man.

Dr Chee was disqualified from contesting the last two General Elections because he was declared a bankrupt in 2006 for failing to pay damages for libel to former Prime Ministers Lee Kuan Yew and Goh Chok Tong. He was discharged from bankruptcy in 2012 after the former Prime Ministers agreed to accept a reduced sum in damages. Since then Dr Chee has been campaigning to redeem himself in the public eye in preparation for the next General Election.

As he has done in the past, he has looked to the foreign media for redemption, chiefly because foreign journalists don’t know him as well as Singaporeans and he believes he can beguile them into believing he is the Aung San Suu Kyi of Singapore politics. Dr Chee, however, claims he is forced to publish in the foreign media because he has been silenced in the Singapore media.

But this is false. There are several socio-political websites in Singapore, some with as wide a reach among Singaporeans as the Huffington Post has among Americans. They have run several articles by Dr Chee. The local press also has carried several of Dr Chee’s letters.

Dr Chee’s problem is not that he has not been heard by Singaporeans. His problem is that they have.

Sincerely,

Chan Chun Sing

Minister for Social and Family Development, Singapore
Source link  : CNA – >  Chan Chun Sing rebuffs Huffington Post for running articles by Chee Soon Juan

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Mr K Shanmugam : The Protection from Harassment Act is now in force

Protecting harrassment victims and the vulnerable

The Protection from Harassment Act is now in force.

Avenues for self-help and civil remedies for victims of harassment are available under the Act.

Victims can also claim for damages separately. In very egregious cases, harassers may also face criminal prosecution. These two measures will complement the Protection Order, creating a ladder of remedies for victims.

However, harassment cannot be dealt with by laws alone. Each of us has a part to play in cultivating community norms, and educating each other on what constitutes socially acceptable behaviour.

Our children have a right to grow up in a safe environment, free from discrimination and bullying by peers. We should be free from intimidating, hostile and abusive environment, be it at home or at the workplace, online or offline.

The Act puts in place a framework for stopping behaviour which is socially unacceptable, and which better protects the vulnerable.

CPF money is always returned – IN FULL, but those who donate their money to Roy Ngerng will never again see their money. And woh ! M Ravi earns more than a senior counsel ?!

image -> Actually, I’m a technician

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Overheard from QY:

So Roy’s lawyer earns more than a senior counsel?
He gave the figure of $70k himself when he asked for donations. Hahaha

He can inflate his lawyer’s legal fee to any amount he wants since he isn’t paying for it. It’s public donations and he is well able to manipulate people’s emotions to get them to donate. No one has any idea how much of the donations has been spent or how they were spent. There is no transparency or accountability.

The government raised the draw down age so that they can keep your CPF forever?
That’s a big lie.

What is true is that those who donate their money to Roy will never again see that money.

Since when was anyone unable to take back his CPF?
The older generation had already withdrawn all their CPF. The younger old are receiving their monthly payouts. People are using their CPF to buy their property, to pay medical bills and insurance and more. If a person lives to a ripe old age, the monthly payouts he receives in total exceeds what he has in his retirement account. If unfortunately he dies early, whatever money he has left in his CPF will be distributed to his family members according to his nomination. If he had not made any nomination, then the money will still be distributed to his family members – according to intestacy laws.

Either way, the CPF money is always returned – IN FULL.

Comment :
At my age of 74 years, I totally agree with the writer’s comment regarding the CPF.

Thru CPF I own my HDB Flat ( now rented ) n CPF has never fail to pay me.

Current income gives me much more than I need n yet to see the need of my personal saving, all thanks to our country’s good system …

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Overheard :

  • These 2 person, Roy & HHH are deem clever. If you are not successful in life due to deficiency of capability, the least is they know that a bunch of anti-PAP supporters would like to listen, cheers and support regardless. The more they spoke against the Ruling party, (any bullshit also can) the better and more money they get. I wonder if they might even get a long term salary to continue their act.
  • If it is not 70K , who in the right mind ( not even Ravi) will represent him for blalantly defamation of a country Prime Minister.
    It is suicide , R&R ( Roy and Ravi ) are both in it for the money ,only very naive people can’t see that.
  • The only suckers here were the people who donated the amount…
    I wonder how they are feeling now..
  • PM Lee’s legal fee is assessed to be $29,000, but Ravi’s legal fee to represent Roy Ngerng is $70,000 (based on this, Roy managed to crowd-source $110K).
    Superb business model. Were you conned?

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